Jamgon Kongtrul Seminar:
Meditations on the student-teacher relationship
Boulder, Colorado, November-December 1974
These recordings are from the Shambhala Archives audio and video recovery projects. © 2009 by Diana J. Mukpo. Used here by arrangement with Lady Diana and the Shambhala archives. All rights reserved.
In this extraordinary seminar, Chögyam Trungpa explores his intimate relationship with his root teacher, Jamgon Kongtrul of Shechen, and how this relates to the student teacher relationship in Buddhism altogether. He also talks about the first Jamgon Kongtrul, Jamgon Kongtrul the Great, and his approach to ecumenicism and the contemplative traditions in Buddhism. As with the approach of the newly published Mishap Lineage, (which is about the Trungpa Lineage) the tone of this seminar is highly personal and direct. The Vidyadhara stresses the contemplative tradition of Jamgon Kongtrul and the highly personal aspects of the teacher-student relationship as relevant to practitioners in the West.
June Crow and Phil Karl, both senior students of Chögyam Trungpa, will be facilitating an online discussion of this seminar. Your comments will be posted here, along with comments and questions from June and Phil.
June Crow and I were asked to facilitate this online discussion, and for my small part, I'm very happy to be able to kick this off. I expect many of you visiting here knew Trungpa Rinpoche, and I'm sure it was, as it was for me, great to hear him again. Some of you reading this may have never heard Rinpoche teach before and, as I've heard sometimes from students, he can be hard to follow. If so, I'll encourage you here; his speech patterns and accent may be unfamiliar, but he was very precise in what, and how, he spoke. I remember when I first heard him teach, it was very hard for me to follow. It felt good, but I often came away wondering what had just transpired. If this is true for you, this will change if you work at it a little.
There was so much of interest, and relevance, in this first talk. For me, what jumped out is the idea that an authentic lineage is a practicing lineagea living tradition. And, that Rinpoche's teacher, Jamgon Kongtrul, always wanted to know how he felt and seemed delighted when he was argumentative. Toward the end of the talk, he said something like; first there's truth, then it gets watered down, then there's doctrine, then warfare (sectarian warfare). Can you think of any examples of that one? -Phil Karl, Boulder
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