The 16th

I had the good fortune to be living at Karme-Choling in the late seventies when Karmapa XVI stayed there for a week or so. We could go into the shrine room and sit there while he and his monks practiced. His combination of formality -- he was not the least bit sloppy or inattentive -- and complete relaxation was a transmission in itself. I learned how to practice.

My long distance experience of Karmapa XVII is of that same place unchanged since my first guru yoga, regardless of the number.

Cheers,
Mark [Szpakowski]